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04/21/2021 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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-- Public Testimony --
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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      April 21, 2021                                                                                            
                         1:36 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:36:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:36 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Kelly Merrick, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Sara Rasmussen                                                                                                   
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Liz  Harphold, Staff,  Representative Ortiz;  Representative                                                                    
Andi Story,  Sponsor; Aimee Bushnell,  Staff, Representative                                                                    
Bart LeBon.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Sam  Rabung,  Director,  Division of  Commercial  Fisheries,                                                                    
Department  of  Fish  and Game;  Jeremy  Woodrow,  Executive                                                                    
Director  President,  Alaska  Seafood  Marketing  Institute,                                                                    
Juneau;  Heather  McCarty,  Chair, Mariculture  Task  Force;                                                                    
Ginny  Eckert,  Co-Chair,  Steering Committee,  Alaska  King                                                                    
Crab Research,  Rehabilitation, and Biology;  Kyle Scherrer,                                                                    
Program  Budget Analyst,  Office of  Management and  Budget;                                                                    
Chris Becker, Auditor, Tax  Division, Department of Revenue;                                                                    
Mary  Aparezuk, Staff,  Representative Andi  Story; Xh'unei,                                                                    
Lance  A.  Twitchell,  Associate  Professor,  Alaska  Native                                                                    
Languages,  University of  Alaska Southeast;  Sandra Moller,                                                                    
Director,  Division  of   Community  and  Regional  Affairs,                                                                    
Department of Commerce,  Community and Economic Development;                                                                    
Deven  Mitchell, Executive  Director, Alaska  Municipal Bond                                                                    
Bank Authority,  Department of  Revenue; Myron  Dosch, Chief                                                                    
Financial  Officer, University  of  Alaska, Fairbanks;  Luke                                                                    
Welles, Chairman, Alaska Municipal Bond Bank.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 41     SHELLFISH PROJECTS; HATCHERIES; FEES                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          HB 41 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 47     COUNCIL FOR ALASKA NATIVE LANGUAGES                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          HB 47 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                     
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 127    MUNI BOND BANK: UA, LOAN AND BOND LIMITS                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          HB 127 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick relayed the agenda for the meeting.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 41                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  relating to management  of enhanced  stocks of                                                                    
     shellfish; authorizing  certain nonprofit organizations                                                                    
     to engage  in shellfish enhancement  projects; relating                                                                    
     to  application fees  for salmon  hatchery permits  and                                                                    
     shellfish  enhancement  project permits;  allowing  the                                                                    
     Alaska  Seafood Marketing  Institute to  market aquatic                                                                    
   farm products; and providing for an effective date."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:37:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAN  ORTIZ, SPONSOR,  reported that  the bill                                                                    
was  familiar because  it was  heard in  the prior  year and                                                                    
voted  out  of  committee.  He   believed  that  HB  41  was                                                                    
important because  it served to jump  start Alaska's economy                                                                    
and  expand  the  fishing  industry.  He  read  the  sponsor                                                                    
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Enhancement  of Alaska's  shellfish industry  holds the                                                                    
     potential   of  expanded   economic  opportunities   in                                                                    
     Alaska's coastal  communities and  increased resilience                                                                    
     of the State's fisheries portfolio.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     To tap  this potential  House Bill 41  allows qualified                                                                    
     non-profits  to pursue  enhancement and/or  restoration                                                                    
     projects involving shellfish  species including red and                                                                    
     blue  king  crab,  sea  cucumber,  abalone,  and  razor                                                                    
     clams.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The bill creates a regulatory  framework with which the                                                                    
     Department  of   Fish  &  Game  can   manage  shellfish                                                                    
     enhancement   projects   and  outlines   criteria   for                                                                    
     issuance  of  permits.  It sets  out  stringent  safety                                                                    
     standards  to  ensure   sustainability  and  health  of                                                                    
     existing  natural  stocks.  The commissioner  of  ADF&G                                                                    
     must also  make a  determination of  substantial public                                                                    
     benefit before a project can proceed.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     In addition, the  bill allows the Department  of Fish &                                                                    
     Game  to  set  the  application  fee  for  a  shellfish                                                                    
     enhancement  project  permit  and  grants  the  similar                                                                    
     authority  over  the  application   fee  for  a  salmon                                                                    
     enhancement project  permit. This bill also  amends the                                                                    
     statutes   governing  the   Alaska  Seafood   Marketing                                                                    
     Institute  to   allow  ASMI  to  market   aquatic  farm                                                                    
     products including oysters and kelp.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     House  Bill   41  plays  an   important  role   in  the                                                                    
     development  of mariculture  in Alaska  by providing  a                                                                    
     method to  increase the available harvest  of shellfish                                                                    
     for  public   use  in   an  environmentally   safe  and                                                                    
     responsible manner.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LIZ HARPHOLD, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  ORTIZ, relayed that the                                                                    
bill  provided the  legal framework  for  the Department  of                                                                    
Fish  and  Game  (DFG)  to  permit  and  regulate  shellfish                                                                    
hatcheries.  The  bill  was  mirrored  off  salmon  hatchery                                                                    
statutes that were established decades  ago. She shared that                                                                    
industry  stakeholders brought  the  idea  to the  sponsors                                                                     
attention. She  indicated that  Julie Decker  [Chair, Alaska                                                                    
Fisheries    Development    Foundation;    Member,    Alaska                                                                    
Mariculture  Task Force]  had been  a big  proponent of  the                                                                    
bill  but   was  unable  to   testify.  She   detailed  that                                                                    
mariculture included  farming (i.e.,  oysters and  kelp) and                                                                    
was a  private industry. Statutes allowing  mariculture were                                                                    
already  in  existence and  the  bill  did not  change  that                                                                    
except  to  allow  the Alaska  Seafood  Marketing  Institute                                                                    
(ASMI) to  market aquatic farm products.  The bill primarily                                                                    
pertained to  the enhancement  and restoration  of shellfish                                                                    
stocks.  She  noted  that   certain  shellfish  stocks  were                                                                    
depleted  in some  areas  of  the state  like  king crab  in                                                                    
Western  Alaska.  A  few  groups  were  researching  how  to                                                                    
restore and  enhance depleted stocks. The  bill provided the                                                                    
framework to regulate and permit the groups.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:43:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Harphold read the sectional analysis:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  1:   Provides  the  Alaska  Board   of  Fisheries                                                                    
     authority   to   direct   the  department   to   manage                                                                    
     production of  enhanced shellfish stocks,  beyond brood                                                                    
     stock needs, for cost recovery harvest.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  2: Grants  the Department  of Fish  and Game  the                                                                    
     authority  to set  the fee  for  new private  nonprofit                                                                    
     salmon hatcheries based on regulatory costs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 3:  Conforming language consistent with  other fee                                                                    
     structures  set and  adjusted by  regulation, requiring                                                                    
     fees   to    approximately   reflect   the    cost   of                                                                    
     administering  the  application   process,  and  to  be                                                                    
     reviewed and adjusted periodically.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 4: Adds  a new Chapter 12 to  Title 16, "Shellfish                                                                    
     Stock Enhancement Projects."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          AS   16.12.010:   Provides    direction   to   the                                                                    
          commissioner of  the Department  of Fish  and Game                                                                    
          on  issuance  of  permits  for  private  nonprofit                                                                    
          shellfish fishery enhancement  projects and grants                                                                    
          the  department the  authority to  set the  permit                                                                    
          application  fee. States  the permit  fee will  be                                                                    
          accounted  for  separately   as  non-general  fund                                                                    
          program   receipts.  This   section  directs   the                                                                    
          commissioner to consult  with technical experts in                                                                    
        the relevant areas before permit issuance;                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          AS 16.12.020:  Provides for  a hearing  and public                                                                    
          notification and  input process prior  to issuance                                                                    
          of a permit;                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          AS  16.12.030 Describes  terms and  conditions for                                                                    
          permit  holders to  conduct their  work, including                                                                    
          cost  recovery   fisheries,  harvest,   sale,  and                                                                    
          release    of    enhancement   project    produced                                                                    
          shellfish, and selection of brood stock sources;                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          AS  16.12.040:  Describes the  revocation  process                                                                    
          should  a permit  holder fail  to comply  with the                                                                    
          terms and conditions of the permit;                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          AS  16.12.050: Specifies  that shellfish  produced                                                                    
          under  an  approved   enhancement  project  are  a                                                                    
          common  property  resource,   with  provision  for                                                                    
          special  harvest  areas  by permit  holders.  This                                                                    
          section also  specifies the Board of  Fisheries to                                                                    
          establish regulations relating to this chapter;                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          AS  16.12.060: Directs  the  department to  advise                                                                    
          and  assist  permit  holders  in  their  planning,                                                                    
          operations,  and construction  of facilities  to a                                                                    
          reasonable and appropriate extent;                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          AS  16.12.070  provides  department  authority  to                                                                    
          approve source  and number of shellfish  taken for                                                                    
          use as brood stock.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          AS  16.12.080 places  restrictions  on how  monies                                                                    
          received from  sale of shellfish may  be used only                                                                    
          for   operating   costs  associated   with   their                                                                    
          facilities;                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          AS  16.12.090 Relates  to Cost  Recovery Fisheries                                                                    
          and  provides   a  means  by  which   a  shellfish                                                                    
          hatchery may  contract to either harvest  and sell                                                                    
          shellfish, or to  implement a self-assessment from                                                                    
          amongst   its   membership,    for   purposes   of                                                                    
          recovering operational  costs associated  with the                                                                    
          hatchery.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          AS  16.12.100 Gives  the  department authority  to                                                                    
          inspect facilities at any  time while the facility                                                                    
          is in operation;                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          AS 16.12.110  Requires a  permit holder  to submit                                                                    
          an annual report to the department;                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          AS 16.12.199 provides definitions for "facility,"                                                                     
          "genetically     modified      shellfish,"     and                                                                    
          "shellfish;"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  5:   Provides  the  Commercial   Fisheries  Entry                                                                    
     Commission  authority  to  issue special  harvest  area                                                                    
     entry   permits  to   holders   of  private   nonprofit                                                                    
     enhancement project permits.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 6: Defines legal  fishing gear for special harvest                                                                    
     area entry permit holders.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 7:  adds marketing  and promotion of  aquatic farm                                                                    
     products  to  the  powers  and  duties  of  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Seafood Marketing Institute (ASMI).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  8: Conforming  amendment,  prohibiting ASMI  from                                                                    
     promoting  aquatic farm  products  not  from Alaska,  a                                                                    
     specific  region  of Alaska,  or  by  a specific  brand                                                                    
     name.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 9:  Conforming amendment regarding  the definition                                                                    
     of "seafood."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 10:  Utilizes the existing definition  of "aquatic                                                                    
     farm products" in AS 16.40.199                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  11:   Exempts  shellfish  raised  in   a  private                                                                    
     nonprofit  shellfish  project  from the  definition  of                                                                    
     "farmed fish."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 12 Makes application  fee revenues received by the                                                                    
     Department of  Fish and Game  from the  salmon hatchery                                                                    
     and  shellfish  hatchery   programs  be  accounted  for                                                                    
     separately. Appropriations from  those program receipts                                                                    
     are  not made  from  the  unrestricted general  revenue                                                                    
     fund.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.   13:  Establish   state   corporate  income   tax                                                                    
     exemption  for   a  nonprofit  corporation   holding  a                                                                    
     shellfish fishery enhancement permit.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 14:  A technical conforming amendment  required by                                                                    
     prior session  law and  has no  impact on  the policies                                                                    
     being set in this bill.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 15:  Exempts shellfish  harvested under  a special                                                                    
     harvest  area  entry  permit from  seafood  development                                                                    
     taxes.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 16:  Establishes an effective date  for the salmon                                                                    
     hatchery permit application fee  described in section 2                                                                    
     of this bill.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 17: Authorizes the Department  of Fish and Game to                                                                    
     adopt implementing regulations.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 18:  Establishes an  immediate effective  date for                                                                    
   section 17 of this bill pursuant to AS 01.10.070(c).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 19:  Establishes an effective date  for section 14                                                                    
     of this bill  concomitant with sec. 2,  Chapter 55, SLA                                                                    
     2013 and has no effect on  the policy set forth in this                                                                    
     bill.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:50:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick indicated  that the  committee would  hear                                                                    
invited testimony.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:50:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAM  RABUNG,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION OF  COMMERCIAL  FISHERIES,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT   OF   FISH   AND  GAME   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
introduced  himself. He  reported that  he was  appointed to                                                                    
the  governor's  Mariculture  Task Force  by  Governor  Bill                                                                    
Walker  and remained  a member  since  its establishment  in                                                                    
2016. He  delineated that the  DFG mission statement  was to                                                                    
protect maintain,  and improve  the fish, game,  and aquatic                                                                    
plant  resources  of the  state  and  manage their  use  and                                                                    
development  in the  best interest  of the  economy and  the                                                                    
wellbeing of  the people  of the  state consistent  with the                                                                    
sustained yield principle. He cited AS 16.05.092 (2) (3):                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     (2) encourage  the investment by private  enterprise in                                                                    
     the technological development  and economic utilization                                                                    
     of the fisheries resources;                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          (3)   through  rehabilitation,   enhancement,  and                                                                    
     development programs do all  things necessary to ensure                                                                    
     perpetual  and increasing  production  and  use of  the                                                                    
     food resources  of state  waters and  continental shelf                                                                    
     areas;                                                                                                                     
Mr. Rabung continued that the  work described in the statute                                                                    
was  previously  under  the   purview  of  the  Division  of                                                                    
Fisheries Rehabilitation Enhancement  and Development (FRED)                                                                    
until 1994  when the division  was merged with  the Division                                                                    
of  Commercial  Fisheries  (DCF).  The  division  no  longer                                                                    
carried  out   fisheries  restoration,   rehabilitation,  or                                                                    
enhancement projects.  The Division of  Commercial Fisheries                                                                    
still operated  the pathology,  gene conservation,  mark and                                                                    
tag, and age  labs and contracted out  prior FRED hatcheries                                                                    
to   private   non-profit  aquaculture   associations.   The                                                                    
Statewide  Aquaculture   Planning  and   Permitting  Section                                                                    
provided  salmon  hatchery  permitting  and  oversight.  The                                                                    
section  was responsible  for the  salmon hatchery  program,                                                                    
aquatic  farming   program,  and  permitting   research  and                                                                    
educational   projects    statewide.   He    explained   the                                                                    
 significant   differences   between  aquatic   farming  and                                                                    
fishery enhancement.  He expounded that currently  the state                                                                    
limited mariculture  to aquatic farming. He  defined aquatic                                                                    
farming as a facility the  grows farms or cultivates aquatic                                                                    
farm products in captivity or under positive control.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:53:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Rabung   continued  that   aquatic  farm   product  was                                                                    
considered   private  property.   He   elaborated  that   in                                                                    
contrast,  the   other  form  of  mariculture   was  fishery                                                                    
enhancement,     which     entailed     the     restoration,                                                                    
rehabilitation,  or enhancement  of  natural production  and                                                                    
benefitted   the  common   property   fisheries  where   the                                                                    
organisms were harvested for  personal, sport, or commercial                                                                    
use.   The  bill   would  allow   mariculture  for   fishery                                                                    
enhancement.  He noted  that restoration  and rehabilitation                                                                    
projects ceased once its  targets were achieved. Enhancement                                                                    
boosted  naturally  producing  stock  above  what  it  could                                                                    
produce  in nature  to provide  harvestable surplus.  If the                                                                    
project ceased, the supplemental  harvest was eliminated and                                                                    
reverted to natural harvest levels.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rabung provided an example  of a mariculture enhancement                                                                    
project; the Alaska King  Crab Research, Rehabilitation, and                                                                    
Biology  Program (AKCRRB).  He elucidated  that the  program                                                                    
planted  juvenile   king  crab   from  nearby   stocks  into                                                                    
locations  that  had  previously  supported  larger  stocks.                                                                    
Fishing closures  was the  only tool  the department  had to                                                                    
try  to  restore overfished  stocks.  The  bill allowed  for                                                                    
enhancement  projects  as another  tool  to  try to  rebound                                                                    
depleted  stocks. He  offered an  example  of a  mariculture                                                                    
rehabilitation  project  that  was  collecting  adult  razor                                                                    
clams  from the  east side  of Cook  Inlet inducing  them to                                                                    
spawn in a  hatchery and replanting them on  the same beach.                                                                    
He mentioned that the same  method could work for hard shell                                                                    
clams  in Kachemak  Bay or  for  collecting and  aggregating                                                                    
abalone in Southeast Alaska.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Rabung highlighted  mariculture enhancement projects. He                                                                    
elucidated  that   back  stocking  sea   cucumber  juveniles                                                                    
immediately  following a  dive  fishery that  occurred on  a                                                                    
three year rotation  was a prime example  of enhancement and                                                                    
could  allow  for a  quicker  rotation.  He added  that  the                                                                    
enhancement example could be done  with other species, i.e.,                                                                    
geoduck or king  crab to increase the  numbers available for                                                                    
harvest. He  indicated that targeting enhanced  stocks could                                                                    
allow  for  the  rebounding  of   other  natural  stocks  by                                                                    
reducing their harvest  pressure. The passage of  a law that                                                                    
would allow for  restoration, rehabilitation, or enhancement                                                                    
of shellfish stocks was one  of the priorities identified in                                                                    
the Alaska  Mariculture Taskforces   Mariculture Development                                                                    
Plan. He  shared that  if HB  41 passed,  the work  would be                                                                    
subject to  oversight by  DFG. The state  was known  for the                                                                    
most  stringent aquaculture  guidance in  the world.  He was                                                                    
confident the  department had the  ability to carry  out the                                                                    
provisions of HB 41.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:58:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY   WOODROW,  EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR  PRESIDENT,   ALASKA                                                                    
SEAFOOD  MARKETING INSTITUTE,  JUNEAU (via  teleconference),                                                                    
read from a prepared statement:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  Seafood  Marketing   Institute  (ASMI)  fosters                                                                    
     economic development of  Alaska's seafood resources. It                                                                    
     plays  a  key  role  in  positioning  Alaska's  seafood                                                                    
     industry   as   a    competitive   market-driven   food                                                                    
     production industry  and functions  as a  brand manager                                                                    
     of  the Alaska  Seafood family  of brands.  Recognizing                                                                    
     mariculture  is  an  emerging  maritime  industry  with                                                                    
     tremendous opportunity for  Alaska's coastal economies,                                                                    
     ASMI supports HB 41.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Mariculture  involves cultivating  marine organisms  in                                                                    
     the ocean for food and  other products such as oysters,                                                                    
     mussels,  abalone, or  geoducks, as  well as  seaweeds,                                                                    
     such  as  kelp. The  practice  does  not require  feed,                                                                    
     fertilizers, insecticides,  herbicides, or antibiotics,                                                                    
     making it  sustainable and inexpensive. Because  of its                                                                    
     economic   and   environmental  promise,   the   Alaska                                                                    
     Mariculture  Task  Force  has identified  the  goal  to                                                                    
     build  Alaska's  mariculture  production  into  a  $100                                                                    
     million per year industry in 20 years.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     In order to increase  jobs and economic opportunity for                                                                    
     fishermen  and Alaskan  businesses, the  ASMI Board  of                                                                    
     Directors  unanimously supports  HB 41  and legislative                                                                    
     action  to  allow  for  the  marketing  of  mariculture                                                                    
     products  or  "aquatic  farm products"  as  defined  in                                                                    
     Alaska  Statute   16.40.199,  which  it   is  currently                                                                    
     prohibited from doing. It is  joined in support of this                                                                    
     bill  by  the  Alaska   seafood  industry,  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Mariculture  Task  Force,   and  the  Alaska  Shellfish                                                                    
     Growers'  Association, as  well  as  many new  Alaskan-                                                                    
     owned and operated businesses.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Not  only   does  mariculture  present   a  significant                                                                    
     economic opportunity for Alaska,  it offers the ability                                                                    
     for  seafood  companies  to  diversify  their  existing                                                                    
     product  portfolios. With  the support  and efforts  of                                                                    
     the  Mariculture Task  Force,  small family  businesses                                                                    
     have already proven products  to be commercially viable                                                                    
     by selling  boutique products while  offering fishermen                                                                    
     opportunities to  utilize their  vessels and  skills on                                                                    
     shoulder seasons.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     If passed,  ASMI plans to include  mariculture products                                                                    
     in  its  effective   and  lucrative  consumer,  retail,                                                                    
     foodservice,  and food  aid outreach,  in domestic  and                                                                    
     targeted foreign  markets. In  efforts to ramp  up this                                                                    
     burgeoning industry, ASMI will  lend the same expertise                                                                    
     in  outreach to  this industry  as it  has to  Alaska's                                                                    
     seafood industry for 40 years.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Thank  you  for  recognizing   the  value  of  Alaska's                                                                    
     maritime   economy  and   for  your   consideration  of                                                                    
     meaningful  legislation  to  aid  economic  development                                                                    
     across Alaska's coastal communities.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:01:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER   MCCARTY,  CHAIR,   MARICULTURE  TASK   FORCE  (via                                                                    
teleconference)  introduced herself.  She  relayed that  she                                                                    
was  also  the Co-Chair  of  the  AKCRRB program.  She  also                                                                    
worked for  the Central  Bering Sea  Fishermens  Association                                                                    
(CBSFA) located  on the Priblof Islands.  She reiterated the                                                                    
history  of   HB  41.  She  offered   that  the  mariculture                                                                    
taskforce had  two priority recommendations contained  in HB
41:                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        • Allow for shellfish fishery enhancement and                                                                         
          restoration.                                                                                                          
        • Amend the ASMI statutes to allow marketing of                                                                       
          aquatic farm products.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. McCarty  continued that  the CBSFA had  a great  deal of                                                                    
interest  in  shellfish   mariculture.  She  explained  that                                                                    
until  40  years ago  a  viable  blue crab  fishery  existed                                                                    
around  the  Priblof  Islands.  So far,  the  only  tool  to                                                                    
restore  the fishery  has  been to  close  the fishery.  She                                                                    
described  a similar  situation  with the  depletion of  red                                                                    
king crab near Kodiak that collapsed  at the same time.  She                                                                    
related that  citizens from Kodiak  and the  Priblofs formed                                                                    
the  AKCRRB program  with the  hope  of rehabilitating  crab                                                                    
stocks.  The  program was  in  existence  for 15  years  and                                                                    
undertook  research to  understand the  crab lifecycle.  The                                                                    
program was successful in rearing  crab in captivity and the                                                                    
next  step was  to produce  more crab  stock and  release it                                                                    
into the wild. The  crab rearing technology was transferable                                                                    
to other crab species. She  described the strong support for                                                                    
the bill, especially for the  rehabilitation of crab stocks.                                                                    
She  spoke to  the marketing  portion of  the bill  and felt                                                                    
that it was also extremely important.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:06:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GINNY  ECKERT,  CO-CHAIR,  STEERING COMMITTEE,  ALASKA  KING                                                                    
CRAB  RESEARCH,  REHABILITATION,  AND BIOLOGY  PROGRAM  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  shared  that  she  was  also  a  fisheries                                                                    
professor  at   the  University  of  Alaska   Fairbanks  and                                                                    
Director  of  Alaska  Sea  Grant. She  also  served  as  the                                                                    
Science Director for  the AKCRRB program. She  had worked in                                                                    
many  shellfish fisheries.  She spoke  to the  need for  the                                                                    
rehabilitation of  shellfish. She  related that many  of the                                                                    
shellfish  had  declined  in abundance  and  were  important                                                                    
fishery  resources.  She  elaborated   that  the  king  crab                                                                    
fishery  crashed  in the early  1980s  due to overfishing in                                                                    
the  1960s  and  1970s.   The populations  depressed so  low                                                                    
that they  were not able to  recover on their own.  Over the                                                                    
last  decade  many  scientists had  studied  king  crab  and                                                                    
published papers  regarding their  lifecycle. Enough  is now                                                                    
known  to  move  king  crab   rehabilitation  forward  in  a                                                                    
responsible  manner.  She   illuminated  that  the  research                                                                    
revealed the  population was bottlenecked and  struggling to                                                                    
recover on its own. They  performed a test model of planting                                                                    
crabs in the  wild and were able to  recover planted animals                                                                    
one  year   later.  She   reported  that   genetic  concerns                                                                    
accompanied the type of  rehabilitation, but genetic studies                                                                    
were undertaken.  The scientists understood the  genetics of                                                                    
the wild population so they  could appropriately culture the                                                                    
planted stock  to minimize impacts  on the wild  stocks. Ms.                                                                    
Eckert along  with colleagues  also surveyed  17 traditional                                                                    
abalone sites  and found  abalone in  only 4  sites; Abalone                                                                    
was  also   overfished.  She   emphasized  that   there  was                                                                    
potential  for restoration  in Alaska  based  on efforts  in                                                                    
Washington state. The  bill was needed to  move forward with                                                                    
any of the restoration projects.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:10:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick OPENED Public Testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:11:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick CLOSED Public Testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked Mr. Woodrow  to review published Zero                                                                    
Fiscal  Note 1  from the  Department of  Commerce, Community                                                                    
and Economic  Development [FN 1  CED] appropriated  to ASMI.                                                                    
Mr.  Woodrow  indicated that  ASMI  did  not anticipate  any                                                                    
fiscal impact if HB 41 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:11:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick invited Mr. Rabung  to review Fiscal Note 2                                                                    
[FN 2 DFG] and  Fiscal Note 3 [FN 3 DFG]  from DFG that were                                                                    
both  zero   and  were  appropriated  to   the  Division  of                                                                    
Commercial Fisheries.  Mr. Rabung  shared that  the division                                                                    
would utilize  existing staff in its  aquaculture section to                                                                    
administer  the program.  The  department  would absorb  any                                                                    
costs related to the bill.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:12:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick   requested  a   review  of   the  Special                                                                    
Appropriations  published  Fiscal  Note  4  appropriated  to                                                                    
Shared Taxes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KYLE SCHERRER, PROGRAM BUDGET  ANALYST, OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT                                                                    
AND BUDGET  (via teleconference),  reported that  the fiscal                                                                    
note  was  indeterminate.  He  furthered  that  because  the                                                                    
Department   of  Revenues    (DOR)   revenue  estimate   was                                                                    
indeterminate  the  appropriation  to  the  hatchery  permit                                                                    
holder is also indeterminate.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked DOR to review  published Fiscal Note                                                                    
5  from  DOR  [FN  5   DOR]  appropriated  to  Taxation  and                                                                    
Treasury.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:13:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS BECKER,  AUDITOR, TAX DIVISION, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE                                                                    
(via  teleconference),  reported  that  Fiscal  Note  5  was                                                                    
indeterminant.  He  expounded  that  it  was  not  currently                                                                    
possible to determine the revenue  impact because the number                                                                    
of  fishers  and  hatcheries   that  would  participate  was                                                                    
unknown. He added that implementation costs were zero.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:14:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson asked  if  the  committee would  be                                                                    
moving  out the  bill today.  Co-Chair Merrick  responded in                                                                    
the  affirmative. Representative  Thompson indicated  he had                                                                    
an amendment currently being drafted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick set the bill aside.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HB  41  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 47                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An   Act   renaming   the   Alaska   Native   Language                                                                    
     Preservation and  Advisory Council  as the  Council for                                                                    
     Alaska Native  Languages; and  relating to  the Council                                                                    
     for Alaska Native Languages."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:15:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDI STORY,  SPONSOR, read  from a  prepared                                                                    
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Thank  you, Chair  Merrick, and  members  of the  House                                                                    
     Finance  Committee.  For  the  record I  am  Rep.  Andi                                                                    
     Story,  representing district  34,  which  is on  A'akw                                                                    
     Kwaan land  and the Indigenous language  of this region                                                                    
     is Tlingit.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill  47 developed as the  Alaska Native Language                                                                    
     Preservation  &  Advisory  Council,  wants  to  do  two                                                                    
     things:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          1. Shorten the Council name                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          2. Expand its' membership.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  Council  provides  recommendations and  advice  to                                                                    
     both   the  Governor   and  Legislature   on  programs,                                                                    
     policies, and projects, and to  network and advocate in                                                                    
     support of the Council's mission.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The  mission  is  to  advocate  for  the  survival  and                                                                    
     revitalization  of  Alaska   Native  languages  through                                                                    
     collaboration and sharing for all.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The  Alaska  Native  Language Preservation  &  Advisory                                                                    
     Council was created  by the second session  of the 27th                                                                    
     Legislature.   The  Governor   appointed  five   voting                                                                    
     members who are                                                                                                            
     professional   language  experts   and  who   represent                                                                    
     diverse regions of the state.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Additionally,  there  are  two nonvoting  members.  One                                                                    
     member  of   the  Senate,   appointed  by   the  Senate                                                                    
     President  and one  member of  the House,  appointed by                                                                    
     the  speaker. I  have been  fortunate to  serve as  the                                                                    
     non-voting member from the House,  and this is how this                                                                    
     information was brought to me.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The two seemingly small changes  proposed in HB 47 have                                                                    
     significant meaning  to the council. The  first item in                                                                    
     the  name change  simplifies the  name from  The Alaska                                                                    
     Native  Language  Preservation  & Advisory  Council  to                                                                    
     Council for Alaska Native  Languages. This reflects the                                                                    
     goal  of sustaining  and  reinvigorating Alaska  Native                                                                    
   language, - a concept that goes beyond preservation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The second change requested is  to add two new members,                                                                    
     going from 5  to 7 voting members. Alaska  has about 20                                                                    
     distinct languages, and  to be able to  be inclusive of                                                                    
     more  languages  the  council feels  two  more  members                                                                    
     would capture a greater perspective.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     I appreciate  your consideration  of House Bill  47. It                                                                    
     supports the requests of the council.                                                                                      
     Chair  Merrick,   depending  on   the  wishes   of  the                                                                    
     committee,  my staff,  Mary Aparezuk,  is available  to                                                                    
     walk through the sectional analysis.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     HB 47  has a $10,000  fiscal note. Sandra  Moeller from                                                                    
     the  Department  of  Community, Commerce  and  Economic                                                                    
     Development is on-line with an explanation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                    _                                                                           
     Importantly  there is  an  invited  testifier, X  'unei                                                                    
     (khoo - nay)  Twitchell, online who is  a voting member                                                                    
     of  the council  and  a  long-time indigenous  language                                                                    
     advocate. We are all happy to take any questions.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick directed Rep. Storys staff to review the                                                                       
sectional analysis.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:19:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY APAREZUK, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE ANDI STORY, (via                                                                           
teleconference), appreciated the members taking the time to                                                                     
hear the bill. She read the sectional analysis:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1:  Amends AS 44.33.520(a) simplifies  the name                                                                    
     of   the   Council   from   "Alaska   Native   Language                                                                    
     Preservation  and  Advisory  Council" to  "Council  for                                                                    
     Alaska Native Languages."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:  Amends AS  44.33.520(c) by  changing voting                                                                    
     members from "five" to "seven."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick moved to invited testimony.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:20:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
XH'UNEI,  LANCE A.  TWITCHELL,  ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR,  ALASKA                                                                    
NATIVE  LANGUAGES,  UNIVERSITY   OF  ALASKA  SOUTHEAST  (via                                                                    
teleconference) spoke in favor of  HB 47. He read a prepared                                                                    
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Thank   you,  honorable   Representatives.  Gunalch?esh                                                                    
     Representative  Story and  her  office for  introducing                                                                    
     this House Bill 47. My  name is Xunei  Lance Twitchell,                                                                    
     and I  represent myself here  today, speaking  in favor                                                                    
     of this  bill. It is  an honor  to visit with  you here                                                                    
     today, and  to talk about the  sacred and irreplaceable                                                                    
     languages of  Alaska. My work  is teaching  the Linig?t                                                                    
     language  at the  University  of  Alaska Southeast  and                                                                    
     advocating for  the health and safety  of 22 additional                                                                    
     Alaska  Native  languages  as  a  scholar  of  language                                                                    
     revitalization. I am also the  vice chair of the Alaska                                                                    
     Native  Language  Preservation  and  Advisory  Council.                                                                    
     However, I do not speak for those organizations today.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     I  wish I  could tell  you  that there  was great  news                                                                    
     regarding Alaska  Native languages. I wish  I could say                                                                    
     that  since the  last time  I testified  to this  great                                                                    
     body  of  elected  leaders   to   declare  a  state  of                                                                    
     emergency  for our  languagesthat  sufficient  work had                                                                    
     been done and changes were  made that led to hope. That                                                                    
     is simply  not the  case. As leaders,  let me  tell you                                                                    
     what  is  going  to  happen on  your  watch,  and  what                                                                    
     history  books  will  remember you  for:  half  of  the                                                                    
     surviving  Alaska Native  languages  are  going to  die                                                                    
     out. The silence will be  horrifying, and to be honest,                                                                    
     many of your colleagues  will never even notice, unless                                                                    
     they happen to read about it.  There is so much work to                                                                    
     do, and  so much loss on  a daily basis, and  that work                                                                    
     falls  upon  six people  from  the  perspective of  the                                                                    
     State  of  Alaska: the  five  council  members and  the                                                                    
     single   employee  of   the   Alaska  Native   Language                                                                    
     Preservation & Advisory Council.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     When this Council was formed  in 2012, many of us doing                                                                    
     this work  felt a  charge of energy.  We felt  seen and                                                                    
     heard. But then politics began  to be played. The staff                                                                    
     positions for  the council  were cut  from two  to one.                                                                    
     The  reports produced  every two  years  often fell  on                                                                    
     ears that  refused to listen  and eyes that  refused to                                                                    
     read.  If Alaska  Native  languages  were important  to                                                                    
     this  state, then  this congress  would have  heard the                                                                    
     calls  for  change  and taken  more  courageous  action                                                                    
     since  that time.  We had  at least  23 languages  that                                                                    
     were spoken  in this  state before  contact, and  21 of                                                                    
     them  are still  spoken today.  But by  my estimations,                                                                    
     over  half of  them  may have  fewer  than 10  speakers                                                                    
     remaining, and  we are  only talking  about incremental                                                                    
     change,  are only  toeing a  line  that keeps  us in  a                                                                    
     death spiral.  And let  me tell you  this: if  this was                                                                    
     your  future on  the line.  If this  was a  total break                                                                    
     between  your   present  existence  and  all   of  your                                                                    
     ancestors, and if you stood  to lose the chance to pass                                                                    
     along  your identity  to your  descendants, I  would do                                                                    
     all that  I could to help  you. This is the  way of the                                                                    
     human being. I  ask you this: can you, not  as a single                                                                    
     Representative, not as  a committee, not as  a House of                                                                    
     Representatives, but as the  Legislature of this state,                                                                    
     could you collectively say the same?                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     This  is  a small  change  that  the Council  has  been                                                                    
     asking for  since our  last report  came out  two years                                                                    
     ago. We  are not  in the  business of  preservation. We                                                                    
     need  substantial  and  lasting change  that  leads  to                                                                    
     revitalization. What leaders are  we if we allow entire                                                                    
     ways  of  knowing  to be  eradicated  by  systemic  and                                                                    
     deliberate genocide? What  kind of humans are  we if we                                                                    
     stand upon a foundation of  racism and allow systems of                                                                    
     communication that  are tens of thousands  of years old                                                                    
     to be  lost? Can  we, with steadfast  determination and                                                                    
     unity, dream of a future  other than death? Can we find                                                                    
     the courage to  create a different destiny  and be real                                                                    
     about  the  levels  of  inaction   and  total  lack  of                                                                    
     compassion? To all of this, I would say: yes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     This is a  small change, and as a  scholar and advocate                                                                    
     of  language  revitalization  I  have  many  ideas  for                                                                    
     larger changes, but I implore  you to grow this council                                                                    
     and find a way to  elevate the voices that are burdened                                                                    
     with these loses. Give it  a stronger and more relevant                                                                    
     name   regarding  the   work  that   we  do,   and  the                                                                    
     terminology currently used in  this field. We are doing                                                                    
     all we can  to stop the tide with our  bare hands, from                                                                    
     which  this government  has removed  the tools  and the                                                                    
     populace. Have  courage, my leaders. A  brighter future                                                                    
     calls  you  if you  choose  to  listen.  A new  day  is                                                                    
     waiting if you choose to  see. In our language, we say,                                                                    
     gunalch?esh, thank you.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:26:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson thanked Dr. Twitchell for his                                                                          
statement. He asked what kind of resources would be needed                                                                      
beyond the scope of the bill for language preservation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Twitchell thought  that currently  it  would require  a                                                                    
rearrangement of  existing resources. He did  not anticipate                                                                    
a  substantial cost  to create  a college  of Alaska  Native                                                                    
languages  because there  were  already  teachers in  place.                                                                    
However,  there was  no specified  degree  program or  clear                                                                    
direction to  create teachers. He suggested  that the Alaska                                                                    
Native  Language Center  receive enough  support to  produce                                                                    
high    quality    publications    and    enable    language                                                                    
documentation.  He  suggested  the  creation  of  an  Alaska                                                                    
Native  Media  network,  which would  need  initial  startup                                                                    
funding  but could  work through  Alaska  Public Radio.  The                                                                    
network  would  establish  a central  office  that  produced                                                                    
audio  and video  content  for  broadcasting throughout  the                                                                    
state. He  noted that a  similar path was very  effective in                                                                    
Hawaii  and  New  Zealand  to  promote  Hawaiian  and  Maori                                                                    
languages.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  relayed that Sandra Moller  would speak to                                                                    
the  published   Fiscal  Note  1  from   the  Department  of                                                                    
Commerce,  Community and  Economic  Development  [FN 1  CED]                                                                    
appropriated  to  the  Division of  Community  and  Regional                                                                    
Affairs(DCRA).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:28:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANDRA MOLLER, DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL                                                                    
AFFAIRS,  DEPARTMENT  OF  COMMERCE, COMMUNITY  AND  ECONOMIC                                                                    
DEVELOPMENT   (via   teleconference),  reported   that   the                                                                    
language program  existed within  the division.  She related                                                                    
that there  was not a  separate budget for the  council. The                                                                    
division would require an additional  $10 thousand in travel                                                                    
per year  for the  two additional members  to travel  to two                                                                    
meetings per year at a cost of $2.5 thousand per trip.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:29:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  thought  that only  1  staff  member                                                                    
travelled.  Ms.  Moller  replied   that  two  board  members                                                                    
travelled.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:30:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Story clarified that  the fiscal note was for                                                                    
the two additional voting council members to travel.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon had  heard that  the council  members                                                                    
had not travelled since  2018. Representative Story answered                                                                    
in the  affirmative. She conveyed  that in 2015  the council                                                                    
switched from  two trips each year  to one trip and  had not                                                                    
travelled  since 2018.  She added  that she  was honored  to                                                                    
serve as a  non-voting member of the  council. She indicated                                                                    
that there  was a report  which she included in  the members                                                                    
packets titled   The Alaska  Native Language  Preservation &                                                                    
Advisory Council's 2020 Biennial  Report to the Governor and                                                                    
Legislature  (copy on file). She  directed attention to page                                                                    
18  that  contained  findings  and  recommendations  of  the                                                                    
council and encouraged members to read the recommendations.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick set HB 47 aside.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HB  47  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:31:46 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:32:58 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick indicated the next bill was HB 127.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 127                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the Alaska Municipal Bond Bank                                                                         
     Authority."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:33:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BART LEBON, SPONSOR,  noted that the bill was                                                                    
heard  in committee  the  prior year.  He  provided a  brief                                                                    
summary.  This bill  expanded the  authority  of the  Alaska                                                                    
Municipal Bond Bank Authority  regarding bonding capacity to                                                                    
regional health  organizations at up  to 100 percent  of the                                                                    
project  cost.  He  expounded  that  currently  project  and                                                                    
funding limitations  were in place.  The bill also  gave the                                                                    
University of Alaska  (UA) access to refinance  debt or take                                                                    
on additional debt through the bond bank.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:35:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AIMEE BUSHNELL,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE BART  LEBON, reviewed                                                                    
the sectional analysis:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1. AS 44.85.010:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Removes the  project scope  limitation of  only heating                                                                    
     or  energy  projects  for   the  University  of  Alaska                                                                    
     Fairbanks                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2. AS 44.85.090:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Removes  the 49  percent project  participation on  the                                                                    
     Alaska   Municipal  Bond   Bank  for   regional  health                                                                    
     organization projects                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Raises  the $102,500,000  project  limit  for a  single                                                                    
   regional health organization project to $250,000,000                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3. AS 44.85.180:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Raises  the $87,500,000  cap for  University of  Alaska                                                                    
     projects to $500,000,000                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Raises  the   $205,000,000  cap  for   regional  health                                                                    
     organization projects to $500,000,000                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:36:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEVEN  MITCHELL, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, ALASKA  MUNICIPAL BOND                                                                    
BANK AUTHORITY, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE (via teleconference),                                                                    
relayed the  support of  the bond  band for  the HB  127. He                                                                    
conveyed that  the purpose of  the bill was not  to increase                                                                    
the use of debt  but to make debt that was  set to be issued                                                                    
more affordable,  which was  the  essence  of the  bond bank                                                                    
program.  He reported that the  bond bank had an outstanding                                                                    
balance  of $1.1  billion. The  amount  issued for  regional                                                                    
health organizations  was roughly $144 million,  which saved                                                                    
the Alaskans it served $65.3 million in debt service.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:39:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  thought the  bill would  allow for                                                                    
additional bonded  debt. He asked  Mr. Mitchell  to comment.                                                                    
Mr.  Mitchell clarified  that his  statement meant  that the                                                                    
debt would  be issued under any  circumstance. He elucidated                                                                    
that if a  project was vetted and in the  financing phase of                                                                    
development the  project would be  financed with  or without                                                                    
participation of the bond bank.  The bond bank participation                                                                    
was  an  alternative  to  other  financial  mechanisms  that                                                                    
reduced   costs  of   debt   for  Alaskans.   Representative                                                                    
Josephson inquired  whether the  bill  crowded out   or vied                                                                    
with  other  opportunities   for  bonded  indebtedness.  Mr.                                                                    
Mitchell replied  that the support  that the  state provided                                                                    
the bond bank  was utilized to reduce the  cost of borrowing                                                                    
and never  used to  pay the  debt service  of the  bonds. He                                                                    
indicated  that the  underlining  borrowers  had repaid  all                                                                    
debt service  since the programs  inception  in 1975. Rating                                                                    
analysts were aware that the  state provided support for the                                                                    
program, but  they do not  count it against the  capacity of                                                                    
the state to  issue debt for other  needed capital projects.                                                                    
Representative Josephson  noted that Mr.  Mitchell described                                                                    
45  years  of outstanding  repayment  history  for the  bond                                                                    
bank.  He wondered  what accounted  for  that. Mr.  Mitchell                                                                    
answered that a rigorous review  process was required at the                                                                    
projects inception and again  when seeking financing through                                                                    
the bond  bank. He  exemplified a proposed  bonded community                                                                    
project,  that would  be vetted  by local  elected officials                                                                    
and brought to  a vote of the community  to affirm community                                                                    
support and issuance of the  debt. He delineated that entity                                                                    
would then apply with the bond  bank for a loan, which would                                                                    
initially  receive  vetting  by   a  third  party  financial                                                                    
advisor  contracted  by the  bond  bank.  The advisor  would                                                                    
provide  analysis  and make  a  recommendation  to the  bond                                                                    
banks  board of directors who  also had to approve the loan.                                                                    
The  processs  scrutiny  would not  allow  a speculative  or                                                                    
questionable loan to proceed through the bond bank.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:43:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon determined  that  the bill  supported                                                                    
two  entities.  He asked  if  HB  127  was a  clean-up  bill                                                                    
because the two entities fit  under the same subject matter.                                                                    
Mr. Mitchell  replied in the affirmative.  He explained that                                                                    
at  the  inception  of the  regional  health  organizations                                                                     
bonding authority  in 2015, there  was concern over  the new                                                                    
line  of lending  regarding the  financial  strength of  the                                                                    
organizations. Due  to the uniqueness  of the loans  and the                                                                    
lack  of knowledge  regarding regional  health organizations                                                                    
there  were   limitations  put  into  statute   that  became                                                                    
inefficient. Based  on the learned experience  and financial                                                                    
strength  of  the  organizations  the bond  bank  wanted  to                                                                    
address the inefficiencies. He furthered  that in the recent                                                                    
past UA  received substantial  credit rating  downgrades due                                                                    
to budget  reductions. The university had  bonding authority                                                                    
specific to a  power generating and heating  facility at the                                                                    
UA  Fairbanks campus.  The board  felt  that broadening  the                                                                    
bond  bank authority  would allow  UA to  leverage the  bond                                                                    
ratings  of the  bond  bank authority,  if advantageous  for                                                                    
other projects.  He summarized that the  legislation allowed                                                                    
both entities the  opportunity to utilize the  bond bank for                                                                    
sound projects if they desired.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:46:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon commented that  the bill also spoke to                                                                    
the economic  power of  the Alaska  Native and  the regional                                                                    
health organizations  strength. He recounted that  UAs  bond                                                                    
debt  service   was  roughly  $28   million  per   year.  He                                                                    
considered the  amount reasonable compared to  their overall                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:47:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool cited the  bill and remembered the issue                                                                    
of a $500 million cap for  the university. He asked what its                                                                    
total debt was and how  was the $500 million figure derived.                                                                    
Mr. Mitchell responded that the  number was intended to be a                                                                    
"not to exceed amount" that  could provide for any potential                                                                    
existing or  future need.  He reminded  members that  any UA                                                                    
bond issue needed legislative  approval. The university also                                                                    
had its  own checks and  balances in place that  limited the                                                                    
ability of  UA to  acquire new  indebtedness. Representative                                                                    
Wool recalled that a portion  of the power plant was bonded,                                                                    
and  another portion  was paid  by  the state.  He read  the                                                                    
following from the sponsor statement:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     This additional financing tool is not intended to be a                                                                     
     substitute for capital appropriations through the                                                                          
     legislature.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool asked  the bills   sponsor if  he could                                                                    
assure  that the  legislature  would  still provide  capital                                                                    
appropriations to the university knowing  it had access to a                                                                    
large amount of bonding authority.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:50:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon replied that  the University would seek                                                                    
the  best financing  rate  it could  find  for projects.  He                                                                    
added that  UA would happily  accept capital funding  if the                                                                    
legislature wanted to appropriate  money through the capital                                                                    
budget. He  viewed the provisions  in HB 127 as  offering UA                                                                    
an additional financing option.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter asked  what the  alternatives were                                                                    
if the borrower did not go to the bond bank.                                                                                    
2:51:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon replied that  the options were limited.                                                                    
He  offered   that  it  would   be  highly  unusual   for  a                                                                    
traditional  bank to  loan money  on a  university property.                                                                    
The bank  was obligated  to seek  collateral and  pledging a                                                                    
building on a  university campus was problematic.  In his 42                                                                    
years of banking, he never  lent money to a public education                                                                    
institute.  Alternatively,  a regional  health  organization                                                                    
could secure  a loan through  a traditional bank.  He deemed                                                                    
that  the bank  would likely  finance such  a facility  with                                                                    
government  agencies like  the Bureau  of Indian  Affairs or                                                                    
United    States    Department   of    Agriculture    (USDA)                                                                    
participation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:53:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Carpenter   wondered   why   UAs    bonding                                                                    
authority  was  limited  to  heating  and  energy  projects.                                                                    
Representative LeBon  deferred to  a representative  from UA                                                                    
to answer the question.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:53:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MYRON DOSCH, CHIEF FINANCIAL  OFFICER, UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA,                                                                    
FAIRBANKS (via  teleconference), voiced that  the university                                                                    
supported the  legislation. He reiterated that  the original                                                                    
authority  was  limited  to  the  heating  and  power  plant                                                                    
project.  He conveyed  that at  its  conception the  bonding                                                                    
authority   was  related   to  accomplishing   the  specific                                                                    
project.  The   university  supported  HB  127   because  it                                                                    
provided  an  opportunity  for    bottom  line  savings   by                                                                    
securing  a  better interest  rate  on  debt than  it  might                                                                    
receive  on  its   own.  He  added  that  UA   had  its  own                                                                    
authorization  to   issue  debt   and  considered   it  very                                                                    
seriously irrespective of HB 127.  A project evaluation went                                                                    
through a rigorous process prior to issuing debt.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter asked  about Mr.  Dosch's comments                                                                    
about  better  interest  rates through  the  market  and  he                                                                    
wondered  what the  market  he referred  to  was. Mr.  Dosch                                                                    
replied that the  difference in interest he  referred to was                                                                    
the credit rating of the  bond bank versus the credit rating                                                                    
of the university. He explained  that to the extent that the                                                                    
bond banks   credit rating was  better than UAs,   meant the                                                                    
margin would  provide a  better interest  rate. In  terms of                                                                    
Representative Carpenter's  question about a market,  he was                                                                    
speaking of the general bond  market or capital market where                                                                    
bonds  were bought  through an  underwriter in  a negotiated                                                                    
deal.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:58:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  if the  legislature had  to                                                                    
sign off on the portion of the  bill that had to do with the                                                                    
University of Alaska but  not regional health organizations.                                                                    
Mr.   Mitchell   responded    that   the   regional   health                                                                    
organizations did not have to  go through a state process to                                                                    
issue  bond  debt.  He  added that  neither  did  any  other                                                                    
entities using  the bond bank: municipalities,  joint action                                                                    
agencies, and joint insurance associations.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:59:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  asked   whether   there  was   a                                                                    
requirement that a  UA bond debt increase  over $2.5 million                                                                    
needed legislative  approval. Mr. Mitchell answered  that it                                                                    
was  a  requirement  unique to  the  University  System.  He                                                                    
explained that  the bond bank  entered into  loan agreements                                                                    
with borrowers to  purchase the loan on  a private placement                                                                    
basis; the bond  bank was the only purchaser.  The bond bank                                                                    
issued bonds in  $5 thousand blocks to the  market that were                                                                    
purchased  by   investors.  A  requirement   of  legislative                                                                    
approval  would be  part of  the process  of the  underlying                                                                    
borrower  and not  the bond  bank. Representative  Josephson                                                                    
could not find  the $2.5 million limit in  the current bill.                                                                    
Mr. Mitchell  responded that the requirement  was already in                                                                    
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked Mr. Mitchell  to review the published                                                                    
Department of  Revenue fiscal note  [FN 1  REV] appropriated                                                                    
to the Alaska Municipal Bond Bank.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:01:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell  articulated that the fiscal  note assumed that                                                                    
there  would be  a series  of issuances  by regional  health                                                                    
organizations or UA  totaling $100 million over  a number of                                                                    
years. Therefore,  there would  be estimated costs  of about                                                                    
$360 million per year for  services associated with the bond                                                                    
issues. The costs would be paid  by the receipts of the bond                                                                    
bank. He  explained that  typically when  bonds were  sold a                                                                    
cost of  issuance account was  created that was used  to pay                                                                    
for costs  related to issuing  the bonds and were  paid from                                                                    
the proceeds  of the bond  issue and were  incorporated into                                                                    
the interest rate the borrower received.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon relayed  that fiscal  notes typically                                                                    
did  not include  cost savings.  He  reminded the  committee                                                                    
that the borrowers would realize cost savings.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Mitchell  thought  Representative  Edgmon's  point  was                                                                    
excellent  and reiterated  that  the entire  purpose of  the                                                                    
bond bank  was to save  money. Entities would save  money by                                                                    
going to  the bond  bank by  attaining lower  interest rates                                                                    
despite the costs related for the issuance of the bonds.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick   invited  Mr.   Dosch  to   make  further                                                                    
comments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Dosch   did  not  have  any   additional  comments.  He                                                                    
reiterated that  the University supported  the bill,  and he                                                                    
was available for questions.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter thought  it  sounded  good if  the                                                                    
state could save money. He  referred to the second paragraph                                                                    
of  the fiscal  note  analysis related  to  default and  the                                                                    
moral obligation of  the state for bond  repayment. He noted                                                                    
the paragraph  the Bond Bank  would request funding from the                                                                    
Legislature and Governor to pay  their debt service.  He was                                                                    
curious if the  full faith in credit  included the Permanent                                                                    
Fund. He  wondered if  the Permanent  Fund was  obligated as                                                                    
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:06:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LUKE  WELLES,  CHAIRMAN,  ALASKA MUNICIPAL  BOND  BANK  (via                                                                    
teleconference), noted  that he  also worked for  the Alaska                                                                    
Native Tribal Health Consortium.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon asked  if Mr.  Wells could  review the                                                                    
payment source and how the  bond sales were underwritten and                                                                    
how  the regional  health organizations  stood by  the debt.                                                                    
Mr. Wells relayed  that the most recent  bonded facility was                                                                    
a  new  hospital  in  Bethel  through  the  Yukon  Kuskokwim                                                                    
Healthcare  Corporation. He  explained that  the corporation                                                                    
entered  into  a joint  venture  agreement  with the  Indian                                                                    
Health   Service  where   the  healthcare   corporation  was                                                                    
responsible  for  building the  facility.  The  cost of  the                                                                    
building  was borne  in half  by  a federal  entity and  the                                                                    
other half  by the bond  bank. Once the facility  was built,                                                                    
the  regional   health  organization  received   a  staffing                                                                    
package  from  the  Indian  Health  Service  that  paid  for                                                                    
staffing needs in perpetuity and  for contract support costs                                                                    
that  will  pay  for  the  bonds.  He  also  indicated  that                                                                    
whenever a tribal member received  care at a regional health                                                                    
organization,  the  state  was  reimbursed  at  100  percent                                                                    
Federal Medical  Assistance Percentage (FMAP) if  the member                                                                    
was  also  on  Medicaid,  versus  50  percent  if  care  was                                                                    
administered  outside  of  the   tribal  health  system.  He                                                                    
concluded  that  it was  in  the  state's best  interest  to                                                                    
ensure  that all  tribal members  received care  at regional                                                                    
health facilities throughout the state.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:09:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  surmised that the risk  of default                                                                    
was  low.  He still  wondered  whether  the state  would  be                                                                    
responsible if  there was  a default  in payments.  He asked                                                                    
for further detail. He wondered  if the Permanent Fund would                                                                    
be  used  for  repayment.  Mr.  Mitchell  responded  in  the                                                                    
negative  and  stressed  that the  Permanent  Fund  was  not                                                                    
obligated in  any way to  debt repayment. He  explained that                                                                    
the  moral  obligation  meant  a  statutory  framework  that                                                                    
required   a  reserve fund  to secure  the bonds  along with                                                                    
annual reporting requirements on  the status of the reserves                                                                    
to  the legislature.  If the  reserves  were deficient,  the                                                                    
issuer would request a replenishment  of the reserves. There                                                                    
would be  potential ramifications  if the  legislature chose                                                                    
not to fund the reserves, but it was not required.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Merrick   thanked    Representative   LeBon   for                                                                    
presenting the bill. She would set the bill aside                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HB  127  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  reviewed  the agenda  for  the  following                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMEN                                                                                                                    
3:12:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:12 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB041 Letters of Support as of 03.30.2021.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 41
HB041 Sponsor Statement ver. B 1.27.21.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 41
HB041 Sectional Analysis ver B 03.10.2021.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 41
HB47 Sponsor Statement 3.31.2021.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 47
HB 47 Sectional Analysis version A.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 47
HB 47 Testimony - Received as of 4.6.2021.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 47
HB47 Additional Documents 04.06.2021.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 47
HB 127 Letter of Support Maniilaq 3.15.2021.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 127
HB 127 Sponsor Statement version A 3.16.2021.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 127
HB 127 Sectional Analysis version A 3.16.2021.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 127
HB 127 Support Letter University of Alaska 3.9.2021.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
SFIN 4/21/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 127
HB 41 Letter of Support - ASMI 04.21.2021.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 41
HB 41 Letter of Support - ABSC 04.22.2021.pdf HFIN 4/21/2021 1:30:00 PM
HB 41